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Re: Sim League Finals! #1 Toronto vs. #6 Utah - 08-30-2008, 05:56 PM

Jazz really, I got pimped and they beat me, that alone makes them champs.

No but really, the only superior player to its opponent on the Raps starting 5 is Kobe.
Terry > Conley
Smith = Butler
Booz > Melo
Okur >> Lopez

The bit of superiority in Toronto's bench doesn't make up for the superior Jazz starting 5.

But man, your defensive scheme is wrong Utah, Raps are even easier to defend than my team was, because Kobe is the only shooter and the main scorer, a box and 1 would do the trick on them.



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Re: Sim League Finals! #1 Toronto vs. #6 Utah - 08-30-2008, 06:37 PM

I absolutely agree with tmac, not only that, utah seems to be able to make chemistry, how can you make chemistry with melo and kobe. UTAH!



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Re: Sim League Finals! #1 Toronto vs. #6 Utah - 08-30-2008, 07:07 PM

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Jazz really, I got pimped and they beat me, that alone makes them champs.

No but really, the only superior player to its opponent on the Raps starting 5 is Kobe.
Terry > Conley
Smith = Butler
Booz > Melo
Okur >> Lopez

The bit of superiority in Toronto's bench doesn't make up for the superior Jazz starting 5.

But man, your defensive scheme is wrong Utah, Raps are even easier to defend than my team was, because Kobe is the only shooter and the main scorer, a box and 1 would do the trick on them.
you cant be serious. Melo>Boozer even if he has to play PF. The man can play big. He's proven it. Didnt u watch in the olympics. He had to guard big men, and he did, and he did a great job. Melo can rebound really good also


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Re: Sim League Finals! #1 Toronto vs. #6 Utah - 08-30-2008, 07:08 PM

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I absolutely agree with tmac, not only that, utah seems to be able to make chemistry, how can you make chemistry with melo and kobe. UTAH!
what do u mean with "kobe and melo"...they can work out as a team, I don't see any way anyone can stop a combo of Butler, Melo and Kobe

impossible


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Re: Sim League Finals! #1 Toronto vs. #6 Utah - 08-30-2008, 07:12 PM

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you cant be serious. Melo>Boozer even if he has to play PF. The man can play big. He's proven it. Didnt u watch in the olympics. He had to guard big men, and he did, and he did a great job. Melo can rebound really good also
No, Boozer > Melo, as a PF or as a player overall, Melo is young, he can surpass him but Boozer right now is better. He is nearly unstoppable in the post, his physical is much higher than Melo, he can shoot the mid-range and is one of the League's best rebounder. Melo played PF in the Olympics because the Euros PFs are smaller, less athletic, but Boozer would do whatever he wants with Melo in the post.

And you overrate your players to the point we hate them, shut up. Melo did not do such a great job guarding bigmen in the Olympics, not at all. He is not that good a rebounder, but most of all he is not that good a team player, Boozer is, Jazz it is.



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Re: Sim League Finals! #1 Toronto vs. #6 Utah - 08-30-2008, 07:14 PM

i think even tho boozer can pound melo down low

Melo is too quick on the perimeter for boozer, so that cancels out.

kobe >>>>>>>>>> redd

conely can lock on terry, because hes so quick, but he wont score much so that like cancels out.

caron butler and josh smith is a good matchup, really can't pick easily but i just think caron is way too good for josh smith's defense. josh smith has ovverated man D

okur isn't a big diff but hes got an advantage

i think the kobe vs redd matchup really kills it becuase redd's defense can't stop kobe.

ok say you put josh smith on kobe, caron butler will destroy michael redd off anywhere on the floor, and he can post him up easily.

Raptors get my vote.


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Re: Sim League Finals! #1 Toronto vs. #6 Utah - 08-30-2008, 07:16 PM

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you cant be serious. Melo>Boozer even if he has to play PF. The man can play big. He's proven it. Didnt u watch in the olympics. He had to guard big men, and he did, and he did a great job. Melo can rebound really good also
Na Melo can;t guard boozer in the post man.. Boozer is a 20 and 10 guy 54 FG%

Melo should be gettin 10+

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It is of my opinion that he is still, if not the worst defender on the team, one of the two worst defenders currently on the Nuggets’ roster. After last year, I may have been inclined to say his defense was on the up and up, but not now. His defensive rotations are still slow (if at all), his post defense was exploited by other competent offensive-minded small forwards all season long (which is evident by his average fouls also being a career-high 3.3 per game, and the fact that he fouled out in games against the Magic when he was paired up against Hedo Turkoglu and Utah when he drew the defensive assignment of the post-minded AK47), and at 6’8” he leaves a lot to be desired as a shot blocker.
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Re: Sim League Finals! #1 Toronto vs. #6 Utah - 08-30-2008, 07:17 PM

Carmelo>Boozer IMO

How is Carmelo going to guard Boozer? You mean how is Boozer going to guard Carmelo.

Outside of Korver, who do the Jazz coming off the bench? Who do they have to pack up Jason Terry (whose not even a PG)? Whose gonna be making plays? Whose gonna be playing defense outside of Smith?

Toronto has the best player in the game, and that pays indivisible dividends. They also have a team with better defensive awareness, ability and depth. Jannero Pargo did a great job of backing CP3 in the playoffs, and Conley can very well be a starting PG next year. DO NOT underrate Caron.

A core of Kobe/Caron/Melo > A team who has nobody capable of finding the open man. Not to mention a team that possesses no leader.

Whoever said Kobe and Melo wouldn't work chemistry wise is retarded. This is just gonna open more opportunities for themselves and their teammates.



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Re: Sim League Finals! #1 Toronto vs. #6 Utah - 08-30-2008, 07:19 PM

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i think even tho boozer can pound melo down low

Melo is too quick on the perimeter for boozer, so that cancels out.

kobe >>>>>>>>>> redd

conely can lock on terry, because hes so quick, but he wont score much so that like cancels out.

caron butler and josh smith is a good matchup, really can't pick easily but i just think caron is way too good for josh smith's defense. josh smith has ovverated man D

okur isn't a big diff but hes got an advantage

i think the kobe vs redd matchup really kills it becuase redd's defense can't stop kobe.

ok say you put josh smith on kobe, caron butler will destroy michael redd off anywhere on the floor, and he can post him up easily.

Raptors get my vote.
I guess you didn't read the game plans .




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Re: Sim League Finals! #1 Toronto vs. #6 Utah - 08-30-2008, 07:19 PM

toronto has got this one.......

just like team USA: too many great starters and backups.


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