Turkoglu changes mind! going to Raptors!

[Milan]

Brian Colangelo f*cking sucks. We don't need another shooter, and we don't need this team any softer.

Hedo can be a huge asset and an amazing role player on a contending team, and a team with a few pieces to the puzzle, but not with the Raptors.

[AltitudeV]

I'm from Toronto. I love this deal, if you'd rather Marion than Hedo... Whatever you're smoking, pass that to me.
Toronto just needs a better coach.

[Gremlin]

Man this is an intresting trade......im not sure how i feel about it to be honest

[Sikwitit2]

Turkoglu's been highly overrated since the playoffs started. Personally, I'd take Shawn Marion over Turkoglu.

[Ferdi]

Originally Posted by Sikwitit2

Personally, I'd take Shawn Marion over Turkoglu.

You can't be serious. Have you ever watched Marions since he left the Suns and Nash?

In Miami he sucked copmpared to his Suns days. Turk is much better on the offensive end than Marion is better on the defensive end.
Turk is a top 3 clutch player in the League, great playmaker at 6'10 and a good shooter. Yeah his defense is average.
But Marion isn't really able to create his own shot.

[Gremlin]

Hedo Turkoglu
Position: F
Height: 6-10 Weight: 220
From: Turkey
Player file | Team stats

2008-09 Statistics
PPG 16.8
RPG 5.3
APG 4.9
SPG 0.8
BPG 0.2
FG% 0.413
FT% 0.807
3P% 0.356
MPG 36.6

Shawn Marion
Position: F
Height: 6-7 Weight: 228
College: UNLV
Player file | Team stats

2008-09 Statistics
PPG 12.9
RPG 8.5
APG 2.0
SPG 1.3
BPG 1.0
FG% 0.485
FT% 0.796
3P% 0.189
MPG 35.8

Personally, I'd take Shawn Marion over Turkoglu.

I mean it depends on your team demographic
Shawns stats here look very avg to say the least
But you have to put Shawn around players that fit his style of play

Turk is a top 3 clutch player in the League, great playmaker at 6'10 and a good shooter. Yeah his defense is average.

Top 3 Clutch -- thats a big claim son!
Not saying your wrong or right its just a big claim

[Sikwitit2]

Originally Posted by Ferdi

You can't be serious. Have you ever watched Marions since he left the Suns and Nash?

Nope. I saw maybe 2 Raptors games (against the Knicks) last year. Raptors rarely get airtime. Saw a few Heat games with him. But I didn't pay a lot of attention I'll admit.

In Miami he sucked copmpared to his Suns days. Turk is much better on the offensive end than Marion is better on the defensive end.
Turk is a top 3 clutch player in the League, great playmaker at 6'10 and a good shooter. Yeah his defense is average.
But Marion isn't really able to create his own shot.

I'm not gonna argue with that. But I'll take Marion's defensive ability and average offensive ability over Turk's offensive ability and SUB-average defensive ability. For a 6'10 SF, he could be a nightmare on defense. I won't say he's a top 3 clutch player, I won't say he's a "great" playmaker either. He's a good shooter though. In fact, his shooting > the other two things you said. But aside from that. He's not really quick, not really athletic. His size works wonders for him, but I can't help but wonder about his productivity in another system. Yes, Shawn Marion is ideal for an uptempo style. But he's still more versatile than Turkoglu.

Marion's game just isn't fit for him to be a top scoring option. He's more of a GREAT role player rather than a 2nd scorer. I'd imagine Turk would have similar success in Toronto seeing as how Bosh will get most attention down low and Turk would be the main perimeter player. As long as they don't ask him to play defense, though. But nobody was saying ish about him until this year (and a little last season).

[Ferdi]

Originally Posted by Sikwitit2

I won't say he's a top 3 clutch player, I won't say he's a "great" playmaker either. He's a good shooter though. In fact, his shooting > the other two things you said.

No, that's just wrong. I watch Magic games for quite 4 years now and he definitely is a better clutch player than he is a shooter in general. His gamewinners and clutch shots all season long in the last years were really impressive.

But aside from that. He's not really quick, not really athletic. Yes, Shawn Marion is ideal for an uptempo style. But he's still more versatile than Turkoglu.

I'd say he's quick for 6'10. Yeah Marion might be good for an uptemo style, but in general concerning different styles of teams i'd easily take Hedo over Marion.

His size works wonders for him, but I can't help but wonder about his productivity in another system.

Why? It's not like he's parking around the perimter and just waits for a dish from Dwight.

But nobody was saying ish about him until this year (and a little last season).

He was MIP last year and i guess a Final appearance and a great Playoff season in the last year of his contract help a lot.

[тояоито яаρтσяѕ]

whatever guys, Raptors are going to let go of either Parker or Delfino, and I donno who I would choose to let go off, Parker is our 2 spot defender, and an amazingly clutch shooter, Delfino, well he's also a good 2 spot player for us and would help alot....

[Skywalker]

Is Delfino a guy who can be on the starting lineup? Or more like a bench player?