Manning vs. Brady

[Milan]

Peyton might have better offensive players around him but look at Marvin Harrison's stats before and after Peyton.

Before: never had 1000, yards.
After: Never had below 1000 yards in a full season.(Aside from last year where he was phased out of the offensive gameplan due to age)

Also, a defense helps a QB's stats a lot more than you'd think. Brady's always had a top defense with him.


And again, don't bring that bull**** about talent. Brady had way too many throwing attempts that year because the Patriots ran up the score.

Look at the comparison between Peyton and Brady's record breaking seasons (First category is completions, second is Attempts):



Brady had 81 more attempts than Manning. Let's say that the average attempts/game is 30-35 (which is around the correct figure give or take 2-3 attempts), Brady had over 2 more games worth of attempts.

Now even with these 2 more games worth of attempts, Brady mustered 1 more touchdown and 300 more passing yards than Peyton. Peyton Manning had a better QB rating and they had nearly identical completion %.

Tom had the greatest season a QB has ever had because the Pats chose to give him the greatest season a QB has ever had, The Colts never once ran up the score, The Colts let their running game finish the game, Peyton even sat out a lot of the last game and the Colts would never do **** like throw a streak pass while up huge in the dying moments of a game. (See: Patriots vs. Cowboys I believe.)

[flawless victory]

Originally Posted by Milan

Peyton might have better offensive players around him but look at Marvin Harrison's stats before and after Peyton.

Before: never had 1000, yards.
After: Never had below 1000 yards in a full season.(Aside from last year where he was phased out of the offensive gameplan due to age)

Also, a defense helps a QB's stats a lot more than you'd think. Brady's always had a top defense with him.


And again, don't bring that bull**** about talent. Brady had way too many throwing attempts that year because the Patriots ran up the score.

Look at the comparison between Peyton and Brady's record breaking seasons (First category is completions, second is Attempts):



Brady had 81 more attempts than Manning. Let's say that the average attempts/game is 30-35 (which is around the correct figure give or take 2-3 attempts), Brady had over 2 more games worth of attempts.

Now even with these 2 more games worth of attempts, Brady mustered 1 more touchdown and 300 more passing yards than Peyton. Peyton Manning had a better QB rating and they had nearly identical completion %.

Tom had the greatest season a QB has ever had because the Pats chose to give him the greatest season a QB has ever had, The Colts never once ran up the score, The Colts let their running game finish the game, Peyton even sat out a lot of the last game and the Colts would never do **** like throw a streak pass while up huge in the dying moments of a game. (See: Patriots vs. Cowboys I believe.)

LOL @ "bull**** about talent". Yeah and despite 2 more games of attempts, Brady still threw for the higher completion percentage, and less interceptions. And again, lets not forget that he led them to a 16-0 record. I don't care what you say, 50 TDs, 8 INTs, 69 % completions, 4,800+ yards and a 16-0 record was by far the best season any QB had that year, and imo, best season any QB has ever had.

But whether or not, you want to consider that as the best season ever is irrelevant, because, AGAIN, when Brady finally got an offense around him, he put up the best stats of any QB that season BY FAR. Brady w/o Moss and Welker was already putting up good regular season numbers while he was winning 3 Super Bowls, while Manning was known for being a choker in the postseason and his teams routinely lost to the eventual champions. Brady has been the superior player when it counts, the postseason, and Manning only has slightly better stats in the regular season, despite playing with a far superior offense for the majority of his career. Give me Brady over Manning all damn day. Not saying Manning sucks, but he's only been the 2nd best QB of the decade.

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- Tom Brady without a doubt.

[toksik]

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Mike Vick is better than both of them.

[shariq]

simple as this

Manning=Man

Brady=Biotch

[markk_408]

Originally Posted by shariq

simple as this

Manning=Man

Brady=Biotch

is that how it is? lol
last time i seen it was

brady=4
manning=1

LMAO .

[Milan]

Originally Posted by flawless victory

LOL @ "bull**** about talent". Yeah and despite 2 more games of attempts, Brady still threw for the higher completion percentage, and less interceptions. And again, lets not forget that he led them to a 16-0 record. I don't care what you say, 50 TDs, 8 INTs, 69 % completions, 4,800+ yards and a 16-0 record was by far the best season any QB had that year, and imo, best season any QB has ever had.

But whether or not, you want to consider that as the best season ever is irrelevant, because, AGAIN, when Brady finally got an offense around him, he put up the best stats of any QB that season BY FAR. Brady w/o Moss and Welker was already putting up good regular season numbers while he was winning 3 Super Bowls, while Manning was known for being a choker in the postseason and his teams routinely lost to the eventual champions. Brady has been the superior player when it counts, the postseason, and Manning only has slightly better stats in the regular season, despite playing with a far superior offense for the majority of his career. Give me Brady over Manning all damn day. Not saying Manning sucks, but he's only been the 2nd best QB of the decade.

The completion percentage was barely higher. 1% is not a huge difference at all, and yeah he did throw for two less interceptions but look at both the positive and negative averages, if Peyton had as many attempts as Brady, I'd say that he'd still have that record.

I do consider it the best season ever, but it's not because the offense was 'stacked' it's because they chose to give him the greatest season ever by running up the score late in games and not stopping the passing attacks.

Brady will never touch Manning's stats, he won't even come close to touching them.

2nd best QB of the decade?

Brady's had 2 seasons with over 4,000 yards.
Manning's had 2 seasons with under 4,000 yards. That includes his rookie year.

Brady's had 1 season with over 30 TDs.
Manning's had 4 seasons with over 30 TDs.

Brady's 1 season with over 100 QB rating.
Manning's had 3 seasons with over 100 QB rating.

Brady's had 1 season with over 64% completion.
Manning's had 4 seasons under 64% completion. (his first 4 years - his next 7 were all over 65%, with the majority being over 66%.)

Manning's been league MVP 3 times
Brady's been league MVP once.

Brady has 2 Super Bowl MVPs (One of which he didn't deserve; come on, less than 200 yards gets you the MVP?)
Manning has 1 Super Bowl MVP.


Don't bring up Brady having 3 rings because last time I checked 1 person doesn't win you a championship. Hell, look at what Matt Cassel did last season with this team, he led them to a 10-6 record (by no means great, but still a capable job for someone who hadn't started since high school).

Originally Posted by markk_408

is that how it is? lol
last time i seen it was

brady=4
manning=1

LMAO .

At least you were close.

[markk_408]

At least you were close.[/QUOTE]

close? brady hasnt been to 4 superbowls?
okay .

[Milan]

Originally Posted by markk_408

close? brady hasnt been to 4 superbowls?
okay .

Going to a Super Bowl means nothing lol...he's won 3.